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		<title>By: Pete (Alois)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete (Alois)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, David--

Nice to see that our &quot;truce&quot; still stands. And I didn&#039;t come here to spoil your understandable glee over Obama&#039;s election.

Like a lot of hyperconceited conservative (and even liberal!) bloggers, we have a little section at the top of our blog where we quote what other bloggers have said about us. I will be appropriating Dr. Karlsbjerg&#039;s &quot;whew, wow, yowsa and yikes!&quot;, you betcha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, David–</p>
<p>Nice to see that our “truce” still stands. And I didn’t come here to spoil your understandable glee over Obama’s election.</p>
<p>Like a lot of hyperconceited conservative (and even liberal!) bloggers, we have a little section at the top of our blog where we quote what other bloggers have said about us. I will be appropriating Dr. Karlsbjerg’s “whew, wow, yowsa and yikes!”, you betcha!</p>
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		<title>By: David Drucker</title>
		<link>http://www.loudmurmurs.com/2008/11/04/the-next-chapter/comment-page-1/#comment-15046</link>
		<dc:creator>David Drucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 06:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wholeheartedly agree with you. Early on in 2000 I quickly found out that everything that WPIUSH did, I would disagree with it. After a while, I no longer had to check; whenever he did something I could assume I would have done the opposite. It was bizzaro governance in the extreme.

BTW, Pete and I have a truce. I think we realized that it was better for us to just agree to disagree. The fact is, despite what he and his friends have said, I have to believe that they have their own reasons and logic and want things to be good in the US.

That said, re. there being no terrorist attacks on US soil since 9/11, why does 9/11 not count? In other words, if you screw up and ignore the warnings (as in, say, Hurricane Katrina), then it&#039;s OK if you do things differently from then on? (And in this case, I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s even the reason there&#039;s been no attack. The fact is, Bin Laden didn&#039;t need to; the damage he inflicted kept festering, like a wound that would never heal.) At any rate, I like governments to work well the first time, and not have to constantly be &#039;learning&#039; from their horrific mistakes.

I also suspect that if you asked the surviving citizens of Iraq if it was worth the cost in human lives and suffering to be rid of Sadaam, and they had a chance to tell the US back in March of 2003 if they could attack or not, I suspect their answer would be the now familiar &#039;Thanks but no thanks.&#039;

Anyway, I&#039;ve been thinking about a special post about WPIUSH (Worst President in US History), and how his coming to power has now ascended to WSEIUSH (Worst Single Event In US History). I think I&#039;ll post that on the 19th, the last full day he inhabits the White House. The next day I will partying my heart out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wholeheartedly agree with you. Early on in 2000 I quickly found out that everything that WPIUSH did, I would disagree with it. After a while, I no longer had to check; whenever he did something I could assume I would have done the opposite. It was bizzaro governance in the extreme.</p>
<p>BTW, Pete and I have a truce. I think we realized that it was better for us to just agree to disagree. The fact is, despite what he and his friends have said, I have to believe that they have their own reasons and logic and want things to be good in the US.</p>
<p>That said, re. there being no terrorist attacks on US soil since 9/11, why does 9/11 not count? In other words, if you screw up and ignore the warnings (as in, say, Hurricane Katrina), then it’s OK if you do things differently from then on? (And in this case, I’m not sure that’s even the reason there’s been no attack. The fact is, Bin Laden didn’t need to; the damage he inflicted kept festering, like a wound that would never heal.) At any rate, I like governments to work well the first time, and not have to constantly be ‘learning’ from their horrific mistakes.</p>
<p>I also suspect that if you asked the surviving citizens of Iraq if it was worth the cost in human lives and suffering to be rid of Sadaam, and they had a chance to tell the US back in March of 2003 if they could attack or not, I suspect their answer would be the now familiar ‘Thanks but no thanks.’</p>
<p>Anyway, I’ve been thinking about a special post about WPIUSH (Worst President in US History), and how his coming to power has now ascended to WSEIUSH (Worst Single Event In US History). I think I’ll post that on the 19th, the last full day he inhabits the White House. The next day I will partying my heart out.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Karlsbjerg</title>
		<link>http://www.loudmurmurs.com/2008/11/04/the-next-chapter/comment-page-1/#comment-15045</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Karlsbjerg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 05:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read a couple of posts on Pete (Alois)&#039;s blog, and... whew, wow, yowsa and yikes!

I resented that George Bush&#039;s first acts in office were to cancel America&#039;s participation in various international agreements (more &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Politicians/Bush%27s_First_Year.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;). America reserves its right to develop chemical weapons (and to hunt down all others who dare do the same). America reserves its right to consume and pollute and wage war against whomever it wishes.

Special rules for America.

Recently America has reserved the right to consider all of space its domain. America will put weapons in space (if and when they actually develop them), and they&#039;ll take any actions necessary to prevent other nations from doing the same.

In modern Europe, &quot;nationalism&quot; is a dirty word. In Bush&#039;s America the word was never heard.

The Onion&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28784&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;article about the GWBush presidency&lt;/a&gt; from January 17, 2001 was prophetic indeed:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Bush: &#039;Our Long National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity Is Finally Over&#039;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I hope that &quot;America&quot; will now again become a nation that is respected for more than its military and monetary girth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read a couple of posts on Pete (Alois)‘s blog, and… whew, wow, yowsa and yikes!</p>
<p>I resented that George Bush’s first acts in office were to cancel America’s participation in various international agreements (more <a href="http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Politicians/Bush%27s_First_Year.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>). America reserves its right to develop chemical weapons (and to hunt down all others who dare do the same). America reserves its right to consume and pollute and wage war against whomever it wishes.</p>
<p>Special rules for America.</p>
<p>Recently America has reserved the right to consider all of space its domain. America will put weapons in space (if and when they actually develop them), and they’ll take any actions necessary to prevent other nations from doing the same.</p>
<p>In modern Europe, “nationalism” is a dirty word. In Bush’s America the word was never heard.</p>
<p>The Onion’s <a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28784" rel="nofollow">article about the GWBush presidency</a> from January 17, 2001 was prophetic indeed:</p>
<blockquote><p>Bush: ‘Our Long National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity Is Finally Over’</p></blockquote>
<p>I hope that “America” will now again become a nation that is respected for more than its military and monetary girth.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete (Alois)</title>
		<link>http://www.loudmurmurs.com/2008/11/04/the-next-chapter/comment-page-1/#comment-15032</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete (Alois)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 02:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, David, let&#039;s give the &quot;devil&quot; his due.

No terrorist attacks on U.S. soil (where the rest of us still live) since 9/11.

And people in Iraq can do a lot of stuff they couldn&#039;t do under the tenure of their former &quot;glorious leader.&quot;

Just sayin&#039;, dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, David, let’s give the “devil” his due.</p>
<p>No terrorist attacks on U.S. soil (where the rest of us still live) since 9/11.</p>
<p>And people in Iraq can do a lot of stuff they couldn’t do under the tenure of their former “glorious leader.”</p>
<p>Just sayin’, dude.</p>
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		<title>By: West End Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.loudmurmurs.com/2008/11/04/the-next-chapter/comment-page-1/#comment-15029</link>
		<dc:creator>West End Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 12:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wish I could have been there with the folks, David.  Hope everyone had a great time.  It was rather surreal for me to be back here in Florida and watching the results while all you guys were up there.

An exciting result no matter where you were, though . . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish I could have been there with the folks, David.  Hope everyone had a great time.  It was rather surreal for me to be back here in Florida and watching the results while all you guys were up there.</p>
<p>An exciting result no matter where you were, though .…</p>
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