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	<title>Comments on: I Still Love Vermont (Again)</title>
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		<title>By: ddrucker</title>
		<link>http://www.loudmurmurs.com/2007/04/20/i-still-love-vermont-again/comment-page-1/#comment-3399</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 18:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Isabella,

I know what you mean about useless comparisons. I guess in this case, I was contrasting Canada&#039;s (and Harper&#039;s) apology to Arar with Gonzales&#039;s slippery &#039;I can&#039;t tell you&#039; and &#039;I can&#039;t recall&#039; answers he was giving to the committee. Gonzales, like so many other Bush appointees, typifies the President&#039;s preference of loyalty over competence or even morality.

Re. the Saddam comparison, that&#039;s a strange one. I&#039;ve seen the &#039;If you&#039;re against the war in Iraq, then I suppose you think that things would be better if we&#039;d never gone and Saddam were still in power.&#039; line go from being a taunt, to a cliché, to almost a joke (&#039;where the punchline is &#039;Ummm, yes?&#039;)

When are these comparisons useful? Maybe when one of those in the comparison is not a known mass-murderer, I can&#039;t say for sure.

At any rate, &#039;Say what you will about x, he&#039;s no y&#039; is just sloppy writing. I think I&#039;ll give that clichéd construction a rest for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Isabella,</p>
<p>I know what you mean about useless comparisons. I guess in this case, I was contrasting Canada&#8217;s (and Harper&#8217;s) apology to Arar with Gonzales&#8217;s slippery &#8216;I can&#8217;t tell you&#8217; and &#8216;I can&#8217;t recall&#8217; answers he was giving to the committee. Gonzales, like so many other Bush appointees, typifies the President&#8217;s preference of loyalty over competence or even morality.</p>
<p>Re. the Saddam comparison, that&#8217;s a strange one. I&#8217;ve seen the &#8216;If you&#8217;re against the war in Iraq, then I suppose you think that things would be better if we&#8217;d never gone and Saddam were still in power.&#8217; line go from being a taunt, to a cliché, to almost a joke (&#8216;where the punchline is &#8216;Ummm, yes?&#8217;)</p>
<p>When are these comparisons useful? Maybe when one of those in the comparison is not a known mass-murderer, I can&#8217;t say for sure.</p>
<p>At any rate, &#8216;Say what you will about x, he&#8217;s no y&#8217; is just sloppy writing. I think I&#8217;ll give that clichéd construction a rest for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: isabella mori</title>
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		<dc:creator>isabella mori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Say what you will about harper, he’s no snake like gonzales.&quot;

i&#039;ve been thinking about these types of comparisons a lot lately.  we can take this further: say what you will about bush, he&#039;s not a vicious torturer like saddam hussein.  when are these comparisons useful and when are they not?  sometimes they seem like sell-outs (should saddam hussein really be used as a measuring stick?) and sometimes they seem to help gain perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Say what you will about harper, he’s no snake like gonzales.&#8221;</p>
<p>i&#8217;ve been thinking about these types of comparisons a lot lately.  we can take this further: say what you will about bush, he&#8217;s not a vicious torturer like saddam hussein.  when are these comparisons useful and when are they not?  sometimes they seem like sell-outs (should saddam hussein really be used as a measuring stick?) and sometimes they seem to help gain perspective.</p>
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